BZP

It's been just about four months, and I decided to revive the old "is it coming back?" topic Skar started.

I voted I stopped caring. Maybe I'll feel differently once it comes back up, but I feel like...I've adapted to life without it.

-Spawn

Skar, if there was a like button beside your post, I would click it.

-Spawn

Spawn you fool, there IS one. That little + sign on the right side of the post.

But frankly, if BZP ISN'T coming back, I don't see why the staff would even TRY to work on it...

Embo wrote:But frankly, if BZP ISN'T coming back, I don't see why the staff would even TRY to work on it...

This.

And frankly, I'm hoping it does because I dunno bout you guys but besides the Shell, Fight Club, and MNI, I've got no sites I regularly go to other than BZPower.

Dovydas the Nerevarine wrote:

Embo wrote:But frankly, if BZP ISN'T coming back, I don't see why the staff would even TRY to work on it...

This.

Ditto.

On top of Zar's point, if they aren't going to work on the site, they just will say it. Remember who these people are -- they aren't a bunch of trolls and ragekids, they are adults.

@Skar: A server? You call finding a new host, coding the whole forums, creating new rules for each and everyone of them, on top of that archiving the old forums, making sure it works, AND the new main page... just a server? I think not.

Guys, if you really don't care all that much, don't critisize them. It's worth the wait. By the time the site it's up, you won't be getting clattered by board messages once and every second.

Rig, you seem to love playing the criticism card. The fact is, all of that could easily have been done by now, let alone how much time they could still be down for.

Besides, I rarely ever got board messages on BZP.

-Spawn

I kept getting them each time I logged on. It's not that easy as it sounds. I realized yet alone doing so much set up takes up hours, and much persuasion.

Point is, they are setting up a completely new forum, to handle thousands of users. It's not that easy, and it's going to take time. Anyhow.

JSYK, criticism is one of the purest ways towards improvement.

Take time.

We get that.

But it's been over four months.

Well, think of how many addons they made. Now add in every problem and difficulty they have had, or could have had.

1) The forum software they intended on using for the archived forums not working out.
2) Having to move to a new server due to IPB ending their service.
3) Having to upgrade to IPB 3, which could potentially have different settings that they have to get used to.
4) Having to contact every forum leader in order to have them rewrite rules and repost important topics.
5) Adding new forums.
6) Reprogramming all their edits to the software to adapt to IPB.
7) Balancing work, their own lives, the news, BZPowercast, Brickfair etc as well as this.

All I can think of, but that could take quite some time, especially if things go wrong a lot.

But not this.

This is hard work, dude.

Invision is NOT Forumotion, or even Invisionfree.

Also, there is the matter of the archive forums - they're a difficult mess, probably, because they can't use the old forum as far as I'm concerned.

Dovydas the Nerevarine wrote:But not this.

This is hard work, dude.

Invision is NOT Forumotion, or even Invisionfree.

Also, there is the matter of the archive forums - they're a difficult mess, probably, because they can't use the old forum as far as I'm concerned.

...

It's worse than invisionfree?

Alright, they're making good time, very good time.

It's not worse, it's better.

Unless you mean that in the 'more difficult' meaning.

I meant more difficult.

Oh.
Yes, then.
It's a truly professional thing, not for crappy little con artists like us.

No, I think they have about 4 people working on it.

The fact that they only mention getting the admins together to work on the forum...

Skar, you're not noticing one problem.

In this discussion, since you're providing the idea, you're supposed to refute arguments that deny it any rational ground.

Namely, why would they tell us they're working on it?

If you can't refute this argument, your whole point is moot, sorry to say.

I don't see the possibility of it NOT coming back, though.

I truly don't see a single real argument that refutes my argument of "Why would they say they're working on it?"

Also, have you ever tried doing their work?

No, you haven't.

So you don't know how much time it takes.

Can I jump in an add something?

Lately, as you've may heard, I'm working on a completely new layout for the whole MNI forum. It's gonna be switched to PunBB from Invision, and will allow full customization via html. We will have our own drop down menu, etc.

I begun working on it yesterday for about 3 hours, and you know what I did? I just played with colors, placed the right settings and shorted problems, until I slept. Woke up today, did the same for 2 hours, and I feel I've only done 4% of the work.

Setting up a forum, much more inserting custom html from another one ISN'T easy. It's extremely hard, since it's new territory for the designer. They need to learn themselves how the forum operates to do it, or else, it's impossible to help others, and it will suck. Remember, who said their host will transfer all that millions of posts in one day? If their busy, IT could take months. Moreover, they have a whole new news page to set up, and write new rules for each of the new forums.

In the end, the longer it takes to do, the better it will become. They decide if it's worth to updating you or not, because, HECK they are doing this only for you and not themselves. You know how much ti costs them to do all this? IPB3 isn't cheap.

Finally, why on Earth wouldn't the forum comeback one day? Why would they be saying all of this if they weren't doing it..?